Speed Camera News Association of British Drivers: Usual excuse to cut the speed limit and install speed cameras
Association of British Drivers: Usual excuse to cut the speed limit and install speed cameras
Ban the Cams note: Recently the Accociation of British Drivers had a post on a road that is having its speed limit lowered from 70 mph to 50 mph and scamera installed over 6 deaths since 2007 http://www.thisisstaffordshire.co.uk/Cut-speed-limit-A500-stop-deaths/story-13962513-detail/story.html. One wreck was going to fast for conditions in TORRENTIAL rain, two others were hitting parked cars for example. Do you really think a speed scamera is going to stop accidents more realted to bad decisions than going x mph???? Besides how do you "prevent" accidents if you DON'T KNOW WHY THEY OCCURED! What if it points to a engineering need???
IN fact one poster on their site Sam Carpenter had this to say of the scam:
"North Staffordshire coroner Ian Smith this week ruled that Hayley had been unlawfully killed after 26-year-old Mr Lewkowicz drove "ridiculously fast" in torrential rain."
Not the fault of the road, the fault of the driver. If he was stupid enough to drive that irresponsibly in such conditions, then it's not the fault of a speed limit. It's a limit... not a target. Terrible for the girl in the car though, don't think she would have chosen that.
Tom Shepherd:
Well there is clearly a problem with the road layout and the lay-by. It needs reengineering, better signage and better lighting. Installing speed cameras will only make drivers concentrate on looking out for cameras and not on there driving. Imposing a 50mph limit doesn't fix the problem, its just a cheap way of making it look like the council is doing something about it.
another post Chris Buckmaster had this to say:
Ahh, but the spike in the number of deaths allows them to put up a camera - then when the number reverts to normal (as it surely will - it's called 'reversion to the mean') they can say: "Look - the speed camera has saved x number or lives!"
You'd get exactly the same result if you put a garden gnome on a pole at the side of the road!
Anyway, hitting a parked lorry at 50 - you'll be just as dead as if you hit it 70 - so it won't make a lot of difference.
In fact below are the fatal crashes since 2007 from the article. 2 hit parked cars, one was too fast for weather condititions. The other two are single motorcycle accidents with no menton of cause in this article.
Kevin Dunne, aged 42, of Lightwood, whose Jaguar X-Type hit a barrier and a parked lorry on February 16, 2007;
Driver Ian Lewkowicz, of Hanford, and his 16-year-old passenger Hayley Bates, of Biddulph, pictured, who were both killed when Mr Lewkowicz's sports car slid into a lorry parked in the same lay-by on September 22, 2010;
Joshua Kirkham, aged 20, of Blackbrook, who crashed into a parked lorry in the same lay-by on August 16 this year.
Stephen Bradbeer, aged 36, of Fenton, and 66-year-old David Tivey, of Burton, have also died on the same stretch in separate motorbike crashes since 2008.
North Staffordshire coroner Ian Smith this week ruled that Hayley had been unlawfully killed after 26-year-old Mr Lewkowicz drove "ridiculously fast" in torrential rain.
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