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Red-light camera arguments go back and forth
By Jane Musgrave, The Palm Beach Post
9:21 p.m. EDT, June 15, 2011
The latest efforts to throw out red-light cameras has endangered regular red-light tickets instead.
In a ruling attorney Ted Hollander hopes will be adopted by judges throughout the state, a Broward County judge last month ruled that regular citations for running red lights are unconstitutional because they carry a far more severe penalty than those slapped on motorists caught on camera running a red light. The disparity — a $264 fine vs. a $158 fine — violates the equal protection clause of the U.S. Constitution, said Broward County Court Judge Fred Berman.
"A driver who is observed by an officer committing the violation [in the traditional manner] is subjected to more severe penalties and ramifications than a driver who is fortunate enough to have committed the infraction at a "red light camera" intersection," he wrote
In addition to a bigger fine, a motorist slapped with a regular red-light ticket can get four points assessed on their driver's license, which can drive up their insurance rates. Those convicted of a camera violation get none.
Hollander hoped to ask Palm Beach County Court Judge Laura Johnson last week to embrace Berman's ruling. However, he won the case automatically when the officer who issued the ticket failed to show up.
Working for the West Palm Beach office of The Ticket Clinic, Hollander said he has other tickets in the pipeline and hopes to make the same pitch to county court judges in Palm Beach and Miami-Dade counties within the month.
The problem, he and others say, is the process is painstakingly slow. Berman's ruling isn't binding on other county court judges in Broward County, much less others in the state. To make it stick, a Broward circuit judge has to adopt Berman's view. Then, anyone who gets a ticket for running a red light in Broward County would get a free pass.
But before it would have any impact in Palm Beach County, the 4th District Court of Appeal would also have to agree that the year-old, red-light-camera law has made constitutional mincemeat out of the traditional red-light ticket.
Attorney William Abramson, who has launched an attack on the constitutionality of the red-light-camera statute, said Hollander's tack will take too long. Further, he said, he isn't out to give motorists free rein to run red lights. He said he believes the concept of giving motorists tickets based on the snap of a camera is wrong.
"I can't argue it both ways," he said of the idea of challenging traditional red-light tickets. "I'm uncomfortable with that."
Instead, he is focusing his efforts on a lawsuit, claiming the red-light-camera law violates one of the basic tenets of the nation's criminal justice system: Innocent until proven guilty.
According to the law that went into effect July 1, a motorist can beat the ticket by submitting proof he wasn't behind the wheel when the photo was snapped. Abramson is arguing that it's the government's responsibility to prove who was driving.
His lawsuit has already survived one challenge from the Florida Attorney General's Office. It could be decided in the next several months. Because it is before a circuit judge, if he wins it would become the law in Palm Beach County.
"I have a really good chance of getting a ruling from the DCA by the end of the year," he said. "Why not cut to the chase? I'll get a ruling much more quickly."
Jennifer Meale, communications director for Attorney General Pam Bondi, said the office plans to appeal Berman's ruling. In court papers, agency attorneys argued that traffic cameras are "a unique method of enforcement" and therefore the legislature could create different penalties for violations.
Both are lucrative for the state. From July 1, when the red-light-camera law took effect, until June 1, the state collected $17.1 million. During the same time, it collected $4.35 million from those caught by cops running red lights. Neither number includes the millions more that goes to counties and municipalities that issue both types of tickets.
Charles Territo, a spokesman for American Traffic Solutions Inc., said he was confident that court fights launched by Hollander and Abramson will fail. The company has the contract to run the red-light-camera programs in West Palm Beach, Boynton Beach, Juno Beach, Palm Springs and most other cities and counties across the state that have them.
"Courts across the country have time and again upheld red-light safety camera programs against constitutional challenges," Territo said. "Contrary to the belief of red-light-camera opponents, there is no constitutional right to break the law, run red lights and injure or kill other drivers, passengers pedestrians or bicyclists."
Like Abramson, Hollander said his true aim is red-light cameras. He is hoping the legislature won't sacrifice the regular red-light tickets for the camera program and eventually his lawsuit will spur the measure's repeal.
"I want cameras to disappear," he said. "I don't think they're fundamentally right."
But, he said, change will come slowly. "This is the beginning of a very long process."
written by Julian , June 24, 2011
Well I have been trying to pay my notice of violation all day and have spoke to several people and none have any idea of how I can pay my violation. I have been told it is because I need to wait till I receive in the mail to an address I do not live at for an actual citation that has just been sent today because the amount has now changed from 158 dollars to a different amount and therefore they cannot help me pay this violation till, I receive in the mail this extra amount.
I was then told to call the City of West Palm Beach Police Departments tickets and violations which I have twice leaving both times messages in the early afternoon and not one person has bothered to call me back.
This is an all day Friday event and now offices are closed and nothing from any person to assist me in paying my red light camera violation.
I have repeated over and over I do not live in Florida, I only wanted to pay this violation.
Is it a pay your violation issue or is it an issue of wait till your violation is outstanding and pay more money?
How can all the calls I made today not benefit in paying a simple red light camera violation.
Is it because I called while it was still a violation and this municipality, The City of West Palm Beach is just creating more havoc?
I called and spoke to 6, 7 people, I called and was told that the city no longer works through the web site that actually sent me the Notice of Violation: www.ViolationInfo.com
I have called: 1866-255-8875 and was told I could pay online and then I couldn't pay online because they just sent out today a citation and I must wait for this to go to the wrong address, the address I do not live at before I can make any payment. Why??
After speaking to Emma, Nicole, Keisha, Cynthia, no information they had could help me pay my violation except that I must wait for an actual notice to come in the mail and I repeat, to the wrong address as I do not live in Florida.
After speaking to the PD. Dispatch a couple of times who just kept connecting me to ticket and violation dept. Nothing, I could not reach anyone at any of their working hours, I even left 2 messages with not one call returned at anytime to respond to the request of assistance in paying a red light camera notice of violation. Why?
Now this is my second e mail I actually sent this exact letter to The City of West Palm Beach: This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. in hopes of resolving this Red Light Camera, Notice of Violation. I beg for them to
Please assist me in this issue, I would like to pay this violation and again I repeat I do not live in Florida,
I had been out of the state looking for work, as I was unemployed and homeless living in my car.
I have only the desire to pay this Notice of Violation.
Now I have notified your blogs in hope to understand, Why? I am getting pushed around in only my desire to pay a Notice of Violation? I am in hope since the City of West Palm Beach has no answers other than I must wait for a citation in the mail to pay a larger fine, I am in hope that perhaps you can better direct me on what I can do to pay and resolve this ,
Red light camera Notice of Violation.
Thank You.
Julian
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